Begoña is one of the influencers with the most followers on social networks in Spain at the moment, and her book has become number one in sales within a few days of its publication.
But, who is this affable and funny woman who has revolutionized the media landscape based on authenticity and spontaneity?
We invite you to discover "the beauty of being" that this mother of seven children reveals to us from her personal experience. The same one that led her to rethink her life and be reborn from her as "The Orderer".
We leave you in their hands so that you can enjoy a true caress for the soul.
First of all, Begoña, I sincerely thank you for welcoming us into your home and for opening the doors of your home to us with such generosity.
B- Thanks to you.
We meet a woman named Begoña Pérez, who is married to Pedro, who is the mother of 7 children, who works in a family business, and who, like all housewives, worries that domestic life works (with 7 children already I will be). A woman, I dare say, quite conventional, in the best sense of the word.
B - Yes.
Suddenly that woman becomes one of the most media women of the moment. A woman with almost a million followers on her Instagram account, who publishes books that are number 1 in sales in Spain and that on the eighth day of her publication, is in its third edition. What happens in the life of this very normal woman so that she suddenly becomes the person that I have just described?
B- Well, as you say, I have been a woman who has always been super hidden with my things. My things can be my family, my work, my chores and my friends too. For me, they are quite important pillars, if something is missing I limp a lot.
When I get into the world of Instagram, I say to myself: “let's see, I'm older, what am I going to contribute on Instagram? I'm not tall, I'm not 'mega skinny', I'm not gorgeous or anything”, she saw a lot of negative things in me. Understand me, I mean, on Instagram people are usually super pretty, super cool and I know I'm not at that level. But speaking with Teresa Robles from the account “Put a Down in your Life”, who is a great friend of mine, she tells me: “Bego, you are going to go super far”. I barely had 3000 followers and I told her: "Oh Teresa, how your love shows, but what am I going to do? There are tons of memorandum accounts." Finding my name "La Ordenatriz" was difficult for me because the ones I liked were already taken and I said: "well, that's it, as a governess of order", something that I wanted to teach because I was learning it. And then she tells me: “no, the most important thing is that you don't lose your essence as a person”.
It seems silly, but that helped me to stop and think and say: "it's true, maybe I can't provide that physical beauty that I'm complaining about, but precisely those characteristics that I saw as negative can be my strength". First the "being older". I come from an analog era and I understand networks as personal networks, I can't separate it, because I can't be like that. What Teresa told me helped me tell myself: "it's true, I'm never going to separate my person, my way of being, whatever it may be, with my virtues and with my defects of course, I can't separate it from the account because I I am like that and it is the only thing that can be maintained ”. I decided to always go forward, I had nothing to lose, because it's not like I had everything done, because in life nothing is ever done, starting with the family. The family is day by day, until we die nothing is done, from then on yes, it is already past and everything is done, but as long as it continues to be present, therefore that present is a future before.
Understanding the world of social networks as personal networks was an important key. He told me: "I am here to help with a vocation of true service"First, understanding that I had to help myself, which is what I tell in the book.
Why is there a moment in my life that I fall into a sadness, a normal sadness, it is nothing extraordinary, many people have gone through that. But I understand that there are many crises in people's lives: they lose their job, they lose a family member, or on the contrary: they have a child, they move house, that can be positive. Normally, a house change is going to be better or you are going to change to what you need or want at that moment. And then, from that point of view of helping, I say: “I will be there with private messages and helping people”, and people have understood it. Because I'm also wrong, people are also wrong: “You were wrong, I told you that you had to use the magic formula I don't know how”. No, no, "how did you do it? Wait, I'll understand, because I'm not at your house, I'm not seeing how you're doing it" o "Why isn't that order serving you?" So, that is a long time and I think that people have valued it and being older, well, they say: "Man, maybe this one knows a little more than me, that I'm 20 years old, this one who's 40-something, can still help me."
If I'm honest, Begoña, what you just mentioned a bit, when I approached your book for the first time, it struck me, it was not what I expected. It struck me for the better, and I was very impressed by the sincerity, spontaneity and frankness with which you presented yourself. You were just starting from a vital experience. The one you just mentioned and defining yourself as a rather chaotic woman, sorry for the expression.
B - Yes, yes.
You say that something happened in your life that made you… I quote literally: “rethink your entire life from the ground up”. You say there that it was the death of your father approximately 6 years ago. What did this event mean for you personally? What did it mean for you to rethink your life and really take a radical turn?
B- Yes, well first of all, what I am going to say is going to be fatal, but my father was diagnosed with a deadly disease that is idiomatic fibrosis. The lungs become necrotic and stop working, which I don't know if people imagine, but it can be a very agonizing and very painful death, but he entered a program. So, they told us that he was going to last five years from the diagnosis, and he lasted eight, which was a joy. But of course, the disadvantage of the three more years and also at the beginning when he was diagnosed, he was a supervital man, he was cheerful, he was wonderful, come on... it seems that I say it because he is my father, but he really was, or I mean, a cultured man, he was also temperate, he had some virtues that if you don't think about them they don't seem to be there, it's tremendous.
Why am I telling this? Because when the first thing dies, I thought that my father's death would not affect me so much. I didn't know I loved him so much, even if it sounds bad. You say: "Well, I'm ready, they told me, it's a diagnosis, we're ready, the family, those behind", which in the end of course is not the one who dies, excuse me, it is those who are left behind. Of course first in front of my mother and then my brothers.
And then, I leave it there and I think it won't affect me that much. And that's when I see that I love my father much more than I think and he hadn't let me love him in that sense. And when I see those virtues that he has, that have not been noticed because he has not imposed them, because he has been with care, with love, with those details that he had. He loved to cook, he was an extraordinary cook who didn't cook until he was very old because he worked so hard. I didn't see my father until I was 14 or 15 years old. For me it was normal, I got up, my father was not there, I went to bed, my father was not there.
And I grow up with that idea of work, and at 14 or 15 he stands up and says: “I am missing my family”, and he puts himself at our service, which he already was before, I know, but I hadn't thought about it, cooking.
But it is that those virtues that are not imposed, that no... that is from that humility, of course, when the person disappears is when you begin to see them: “Oh, I would need it here, I would need your advice here and it is not here. Look, I'm going to cry, but he said: "I'm going to erase your phone" because I called him, and what a horror.
And that's how I fall little by little. This is not seen, because you go little by little and after a year or so I say: "What do I do with 7 children, how do I get them through?", and that I understand that I am not talking about a super fat thing, that is, that it is life and that it is vital indeed, but I said: "It's that I have to put a before and after, it can't be that I miss medical appointments, it can't be that I don't realize that my shoes are torn, I haven't been like that, I'm going to resume."
The house was super disorganized and that's when I realized that the material order is given by the mental order. My house was as my mind and my heart were, with that duel. So, it is when I finish closing the duel, of course, they already tell you that it is two years, but they are long, that pain weighs heavily.
“The material order is given by the mental order. My house was as my mind and my heart were, with that duel.
Begoña
I'm capable of what I'm telling you now, but I didn't know for a year, or two, or anything. It is true that a year is noticeable. One seems to be able to breathe widely and you begin to fill the lungs, that's when I close the circle and say: "I'm going to tidy up and I'm going to help myself." I mean, when I see that I've fallen, I have to get up, I can't with this mess, I'm going to organize myself.
And that's how I start to order the house, things. The priority for me has always been family. Because it's what I wanted. When such an important person disappears, it makes you appreciate what you already have, what you've had and is gone too, but above all the present, what you have. Today I have this family and now I have to love it with all my soul and be grateful for it.
I will not deny it, having so many families is a lot of work, but it is also a blessing. It has been expensive, because it has meant being pregnant for many years, with all that it entails, and I no longer say anything when the children grow up.
Of course, all this catches me because they are a bit grown up, especially the older ones. The eldest was 18 years old and then he weighs much more, the children much more from the heart than the physical, I wish it was sleeping or changing sheets 40 times because of the vomit on duty or something like that. But it is true that what is physical, which goes more through the material order, if we do not have it in place, it displaces us. The gratitude for the family leaves us and the complaint enters and that tedious way of: "How horrible, and another day, and another day, and another day that I don't sleep and another day, and this...". There is always a son, poor, who bothers more than the other. In other words, always, if people have two children there are always two, one of the two that bothers the most, that is more messy, more whatever, but of course, if we look at it from the point of view of gratitude, everything changes, it changes Everything, deep down, gratitude is love and because of the first quote that I put in my book, which is from Saint Teresa of Calcutta, it seems fundamental to my book.
And at that time you take a “professional organizer” course. Can you say that she had something therapeutic?
B- Well, indeed after all that I have told you about my father and my foundations and my mental and material order, I re-read the book by Marie Kondo, this great guru of international order, and I say: "It's true", Things I had missed the first time I read it. I see that the book is helping me to know that I have to prioritize the order and I say: "If I can learn it, I can teach it"I'm going to help myself first. I have been quite clear about this, that one cannot help if one is not well in any aspect. It is clear, there are people who help and there are people who need to be helped.
I needed help at that time. This book helped me and when I close the circle of those two years that I was talking about before the duel, I say: "That's it, I'm going to dedicate myself to this". And he worked in a family architecture and interior design studio and he noticed that people said to me: "I'm going to change the kitchen because I can't take it anymore" and I saw the kitchen and man, let's see, it's not ugly, what it isn't, it's functional. I got a little more inside and said: “It is that what happens to it is that it is not well organized, and surely it is that you did it at the time of the move that to see how you put things and it is not serving you now. But the kitchen is not the problem, the problem is us, we are going to organize it”.
And that's how I get to organizing kitchens, and then closets. The wardrobe is more complicated, it is true that normally it does have to be changed sometimes, because it does not give us the functionality we want. The decoration and the practicality of the furniture have a lot to do with it. The decoration of everything works for me at a certain moment and not at another, and that's how order is, because order is like life, it's dynamic.
This is how I then took the professional organizer course and opened the "La Ordenatriz" account in March 2019. My father passed away in April 2017, now I see it clearly, it was a process that I had to go through during those two years, and that has brought me here.
You say that the order was not something external, but that it is related to the mind, the will and the heart, it can be said that this was perhaps the experience that summarized those years where you discovered that the interior was affecting your exterior.
B- Indeed, yes, because in the end of course, in mind we have what we prioritize. When one is bad, one cannot prioritize. There are moments where one must prioritize oneself to take care of oneself and to regenerate and to heal, and then I saw the power that the order to heal has. From the point of view of gratitude, of things, this is essential. It will cost me less to get rid of them. I will see what they have served me for, that they no longer serve me, that I have those pants that weigh 10 kilos ago and they worked for me at the time, and not now, it's okay, do I look forward or do I look at my present that is not currently that ?
So, of course, from that point of view, we get rid of the “just in case”, we get rid of that consumerism, maybe excessive in which we are and maybe we go to our personal order that seems not, but first we have to stop. In this world where we are running so fast, it is very difficult to stop and be honest with yourself.
If I'm honest, I didn't know this profession and trade existed until I met you. What is a professional computer? If I say: "I am going to hire a professional computer", what am I hiring?
B- This profession has been going on for a few years now, which we can see as a window dresser or decorator who helps make a store, for example, beautiful and accessible. What does it mean? As simple as when the client arrives, they find what they see. What's up? The first maxim is to have everything in sight. If a client or us in our house do not have it in sight, we are almost certainly not going to use it. Another thing is having to cover according to what things. Maybe we have to have opaque cabinets for those little things or for the tools that are necessary, but I don't have to see it every day, but I know where it is, that's why it's organized by family. This seems silly, there are people who are bad at it and that is why the need for professional organizers arises. Well, there are people who need a person who understands that but at the same time empathizes with the client, that is, it is not a matter of criticizing him and saying: “Oh, oh, how many black pants do you have, huh”, “These tools are all terrible, none of them belong to the family they have to go with”. no, but “At this moment I am going to be your friend, I am not going to criticize you because I am going to help you”. And then, it is necessary to know and have a lot of connection with the client and that it is wonderful because deep down we get fully into people's lives.
"At this moment I am going to be your friend, I am not going to criticize you because I am going to help you."
It is your privacy, and I am not just talking about the underwear drawer, that there are people who tell me: "What a shame". Being a professional organizer, one understands that one has to be quiet, it is not said that he has gone to that house, or from whom he has ordered, or anything at all, unless the person wants to. There are people who do like it, because there are people who are more expressive and others who are ashamed. In Spain we are quite ashamed of being disorderly, because we are orderly.
There are people who need to start and finish. There are people, perhaps, who know that it begins, but that it does not end and that it becomes a ball, and says: “Look, if this is a matter of four hours, four hours of a professional organizer, let her come. But I know that I start and that I finish and I already take off that thing and I already go to something else".
And it is important to know that each person's order is. I cannot impose my order, I have to ask "what is your lifestyle, what do you like, what do you prioritize", "well, I like cooking", "well, then let's go to the kitchen", "well, I love fashion", "Okay, great, you love fashion, but you're not going to like 15-year-old fashion, let's remove it," that weighs on us
I honestly did not believe in these energy things, but it is true that we take them away and put them in our things. Everyone will understand me if I say that they have given us an unnecessary thing or even that we don't like it. We are not capable of throwing it away, of donating it, of selling it, we are not capable, because there is part of that person who loves us so much, even if they did not make the right choice with that gift, we are not capable, we love that thing.
And I had never thought of it that way. It seemed silly to me, I'm really sorry but it just seemed so to me. When I read Marie Kondo and I see what she is posting the first time I think it's nonsense and the second time I say: “no, be careful, this lady is very right”, and that is the role of the professional organizer. Of course, get in without invading, that a beautiful order comes out but that is practical. There are a lot of things in there that are a bit difficult at times.
Before you mentioned María Teresa Robles, from “Put a Down on your Life” (@ponundownentuvida), she is also one of our Alawa women (Maria Teresa), very recently we were at her house interviewing her, she told us about you and she told me the same thing that you have told but from her experience.
What happened when you opened the instagram account? Today you have more than 1 million followers.
B- Yes, well, at first I open the account and there are, well, I don't know, well, 500 people, 500 friends with charity sincerely, who follow me, for charity, that is, directly and I reached about 1.000 people, I was in Instagram to let me know. I opened the account in March 2019, but if you remember in March 2020 the pandemic arrived, they locked us up at home, and I say: "Well, I can't go to organize houses anymore", that I was doing very well, word of mouth worked very well, and I took it easy, very well, the truth is that it is very beautiful.
And then I begin to notice a need on Instagram for how to order, how to fix such a thing, how... of course, we are all hyper-megaconnected, it's the way we connect with others, we couldn't leave the house, of course, and the coffee We couldn't physically drink it, we drank it through the screen and I start to put... and I start to see what people are commenting on: "Now I'm at home, I have everything messed up, because I have work at home." Of course, we had not thought of a workplace, we have to make room for it, when I take a drawer to put my work things in I see that I have to use that drawer that I hardly used at all every day and then that drawer does not close, that The drawer is dirty, I don't like this piece of furniture, and so needs arise.
Since I can't go anywhere, I dedicate myself to putting solutions that I see around my house, like "Look at the disaster this." So I went with a camera in hand, of course, I was so calm, there were no schedules, to speak like that, right? And then I start recording things and putting solutions and the wardrobe change arrives in May, I say: "Well, now I'm going to organize my closet" and of course, well, I'm going to tell you how I would do it, like that, "well, look at this stain that was there from last year but it didn't come out, but I don't know how many", and I have to say that I didn't believe in baking soda and vinegar because I thought it didn't work, because it hadn't worked for me, okay.
But of course, since at that time we all had to buy a lot of patience, I start using it, I start using various things and thinking a bit and I don't know how I click and people start to see that I'm putting things of cleaning, for me they were pre-order cleaning things, that is, because I cannot order a dirty thing but it is true that word of mouth begins on Instagram.
And “the great moment” arrives: in the pandemic of course, I have to dye my hair. I have an area here of gray hair and I have to dye it. She was going out on Instagram but I hardly went out. And I say: “I'm going to dye myself”, I get a dye, which we couldn't get either, because everything was empty, all the supermarkets were empty, I get a dye, I dye myself, I put on an ugly, ugly shirt, one of those that nobody wants to have at home but what is necessary precisely to handle bleach or dye in this case, and of course, the shirts have a closed neck. When I take off my shirt, I have my dye on here and it has all the stained edges, the shirt is chicken yellow, that is, imagine, it was a horrible shirt, by Óscar Mayer, I remember perfectly, I don't have it anymore. And then light chicken yellow, the red brown. I camera in hand, because since I had nothing else to do, I say: “well now I am remembering that there is a hairdresser…”, that a lot of years ago, I don't know why he told me, I mean if I didn't dye myself I don't know why, but hey, a lot of years ago he told me that lacquer worked against dye stains, I I knew that the dye stains would not come out, with which I say: "Well, I have nothing to lose". I find a lacquer, I don't know how, that I didn't use either, and then… and I decide to record it. I spray lacquer and say: "Okay, now a little water, they told me that a little water...", the fact is that I put it, and I say: "Well, there's still a shadow leftWell, let's go wash”, and I see the pristine shirt come out. Of course, imagine those thousand-odd people who follow me or three thousand, I don't know how many we were, but very little, they see that about the dye and say: "Begoña, it's because I have everything full of dye, it's because if it's not the countertop, it's because I don't know how many...". And I: "Well, go give it lacquer, let's see if it works." And I see that what works for me also works for others. By the way, I'm quite clumsy, it's because I have disasters in my house because I'm clumsy and things don't work out for me. This is how the ball begins to spread and I don't know what to tell you, that is, now we have 800.000 people there interested in seeing how it is cleaned, how it is ordered and how we flow through life.
And suddenly a book appears. How was this book created? Because being number one in sales in a country like Spain where the culture of books and reading has a very important place in consumption is very significant.
B- Yes, well, some publisher had proposed me to write a book but I am a restless ass, that is, especially if I am something it is that I am moved. And then they would tell me: “a book and such” and I would say: “I mean, I would sit there and write for hours and hours”, I saw a merit that I already gave to authors who are dying and I said: “it is I'm not going to be able to and also, what for? If I put everything on Instagram, if it's all free, why am I going to sell a book that isn't going to sell? Come on, I was convinced and I say: “there were also many order books and I saw that they had not gone very well”. It's very satisfactory, that is, from that point of view it's very satisfactory but perhaps it doesn't sell what one expects, so I let it go until Editorial Planeta called me. Of course I didn't sleep that night, wide-eyed, “how strong, Planet has noticed me”. Well, it seems to me that Planeta does know a little about books, it is the leading publishing house in Spain, I say: "if they know about books and they trust me"... well, they instilled that courage in me and they put that belief in me and I said : "come on, we're going to do it together, we're going to see what means we can use to not be so busy and manage to write the book" and nothing, and here is the book with the sect edition, with a lot of printed copies, well nothing, not even Planet believes it and I still less, of course.
I confess to you that I expected a list of recipes to remove stains from the book. Can it be said that this is the secret of La Ordenatriz: connecting with the heart?
B- Yes, indeed well, one thing is the philosophy of La Ordenatriz that I see as basic for people to focus on the stains, but in the end it is that I am very repetitive, but I always say the same thing, in the end the stains are of things that matter to us, it is our life, that sweater is not a sweater, many times it is a sweater that I have worn on such a birthday, what a good time we had, what a joy, there are even things that have been with us for a long time and we do not It's just maybe sportswear, right? They are also things that we need, they are things that we have invested money in, we are investing space, because we are putting them in our house and the square meter is very expensive, that is, we are also investing money and space there. And above all that these things are at our service. So when people tell me: "It's that I can't because I need to have everything tidy and everything megaclean and everything megatal and it overwhelms me", and I say: "Well then I'm sorry, if anything I can help you from the point of view of not being overwhelmed, that is for our service, not us at the service of things". What does it mean? I'm not going to be crazy, pardon the expression, ordering and cleaning.
It's necessary, besides I don't like it, people think I love it and what's up, I like personal challenges, well that's it. That dye, that paint that doesn't come off, that little stain that there's no way it's going to come out and what's up, I like that, but in general I don't like putting washers and dryers on it, but I've understood that it's endless work in As for if I use the house, I enjoy it, I dirty it of course and mess it up, me and my seven children and my husband, of course. So nine people it is clear that we are going to enjoy the house a lot but that we are going to mess it up and make a lot of it dirty.
I think that from this point of view one can calm down saying: “well, okay, this is messy, I don't care, it's super mega-used”. So we return to the topic of gratitude, it's nonsense but it makes me focus, instead of making me angry, before I used to get very angry: "and this again and this again...", because it is true that it is one day and another and this has to be done. live it, but that's life, life is one day and another and another and another, and thank God that it continues like this for a long time.
And on the other hand with philosophy I say: "It's that you have to choose it, that is, if it's going to cause you stress and it turns out that that shirt cost 3 euros, throw it away, it's going to stress you out, so for 3 euros it's not worth it." And of course, maybe if we are talking about cleaning a sofa that has cost 3.000 euros, then maybe it is worth it there, that is, we have to measure our battles and it is the same as in life, that is, There are times when we can't, and I also say it in the book, I say: "Let's see, I can handle everything", for this I am very optimistic and I say: "I can handle everything", although I do not believe it, but I believe it and then I say: "I can handle everything, but I can't handle everything at the same time." And this many times we go so fast that we think we have to get it out, we combine the important with the urgent, we don't care, no, what is important, what is urgent.
What's happening? What is the important? Well, maybe when I'm young and I start working, because I want a family, I want a good livelihood for my family, I focus on the fact that I want to work, I want to earn money and normally you have to work a lot to earn some money, and if I am not faithful to my thoughts and my foundations, maybe I focus on just working and I have relocated because my first thought was “I am going to work for my family to have a good livelihood”, and many times we have a good livelihood, a good house, a good job, such a good person, a good family but I continue in that job that maybe I don't need so much work time or so much money, and yes I do that family and that coffee. I often look at my children when they are nervous, especially when they are nervous they give it to me, with their exams or something has happened to them with friends or such, we may think that this is not important because it is a minor problem, It is indeed a minor problem, but it is a problem that is his and it matters to me, because it is his, because he is my son or because he is my husband or because he is my friend. And that coffee seems like I'm wasting time or even when I'm sleeping too much because I couldn't take it the day before, I'm taking care of myself for others and I'm taking care of others. So that's what's important, I can't relocate, maybe I have to throw it away, because in the end, really see that over the years one knows that with money one adapts, I'm talking about a middle ground, that is. I do not want to be superficial in this sense because it is very important, but it is true that there comes a time when money adjusts, but not having paid attention, having missed that childhood, having missed that train, not having paid attention to that friend who He has lost us along the way, that is truly what we take with us and what makes me sleep peacefully.
What is that vital order that La Ordenatriz has? You've talked about family, work, friends...
B- Yes, it's true, well, first of all my family, I think it shows, because it's true that it's what I wanted and thank God we're all together and well. My friends are very important to me, also work, well God has a very important part in my life. I think this is something transversal in my life, from an open mind but above all from love. I don't tell the truth much, there are times when you say it and people close in band. On the contrary, I see it from a place where we all fit. It is something that makes me a better person, this does not mean that the person next door who does not have God present in his life is a worse person, no. I'm saying that many times we don't need that dichotomy, but for me it's like that, he takes me forward, makes me a better person, well, the same things I'm talking about. If work doesn't make me a better person, if my husband doesn't make me a better person, if my family doesn't make me a better person, maybe I'm focusing something wrong.
Your children suddenly find that their "normal mother" is one of the most established influencers of the moment. How do they live it?
B- Well, there are two visions, one the real one, the one at home, which is like: “Ugh, mom you are working a lot, you don't pay any attention to us”, I mean, before what I've been talking about is not a lie, it's true that it's a moment, it's a train that I caught, I think it's a train I hope it's short, and with the book and with work and it doesn't give me , 24 hours. We all need 48 in 24, but they complain about that, they have always kept me in mind, so in that sense they miss me. I have to learn that this is like life, and like order, I have to learn little by little, order is dynamic, I always count it, so the same timetable from a year ago as the timetable right now is not worth it and I have to refit it into my life.
I am learning, I am always learning with them and I say: "If they complain too much they are already being right, I am going to listen to them." So many times I say: "Don't worry, that's it, I'll leave my mobile", because the truth is that I am not able to leave my cell phone, that is, if I have a question, especially when someone who has had a problem writes to me, I go to that someone and of course, they cannot perceive that above all I am helping people I don't know instead of them, who have been chosen by me. That on the one hand, that at home.
But if we go outside, surprisingly there are people who recognize me and then: "Oh, The Ordatrix." Well, there are wonderful people who tell me, they tell me: “well, I'm daring, I don't even know how, because I've never done it but I'm a superfan”. I sometimes stay like saying: "It is not true that they are recognizing me, that is, what is this" and I try to be super grateful, I stay sometimes... I'm super expressive but in those moments I'm expressionless, it seems... I stay stuck like that but I try to be grateful, because it's people who are giving me their hearts.
So when they see what they are in front of, they come out wide and say: "look Mom", because they notice the love. And I think it is that in the end the children know what is important, they are seeing that this affection is important, they are not seeing the notoriety or if I go to such an event or such, that excuse me, in the end many times it is work, if not I know nobody. For me it's work, I don't have a bad time, but I don't have a particularly good time either, another thing is our events, maybe you say: "Oh great, I'm going to be very comfortable with people I love and who you fancy", but hey, usually it doesn't have to be together, and they see it. But hey, they are seeing that this world of Instagram is hard, it is doing me good so that they know "the other side". Because they see Instagrammers as phenomenal and that's what they want to get to, they aspire to that and they're looking at their mother.
They had also dated all the time but to mention at the end the life partner in this whole adventure, there is a man in the shadows who is your husband.
B- Yes, Pedro.
"There he is holding me, if he doesn't hold me I fall, in such a way that The Ordenatrix would disappear."
How is this also experienced in marriage?
B- Well, Pedro is the invisible head of La Ordenatriz, I understand... it's true that I'm the one who starts, I'm the one who comes out, I'm the one who thinks, according to what tips and according to what order and what's up, but well all our friends, those who know us know perfectly well that we are a team. In such a way that if he had not supported me he would not be here. And of course, supporting me at the best in these moments is not easy because I am away from home a lot, he has adopted roles that he did not have, that I did, he has had to learn about that too and support me, that is it, it is to be what I don't get to and not complain, do it on top of it with a smile and happy with life, and he moves me because he tells me: “You have always been for the family and well…”, what you said before about a conventional woman, it's true I went about my business. People can see it as short-sighted, but I was saying: "I go to my job, my family and little else, I'm not going to get involved anymore because that's how I see life, because my family is pretty busy, right?" So it's true that I have always supported Pedro from behind, because if he went on a trip it wouldn't show, if he didn't go shopping it wouldn't show because I... well, a lot of things, right?, until I have prepared their suits, now that they don't wear the suits, but a lot of things, and in a conventional way. So now things have turned around and now he's there, so it shouldn't be noticed that mom isn't there, that it shouldn't be noticed... Well, it's always noticeable, it was noticeable before with Pedro and now it's noticeable with me, but there he is holding me, if he doesn't hold me I fall, in such a way that The Ordenatrix would disappear, but like this, I say it so clearly, if he is not supporting me The Ordenatrix will disappear tomorrow.
Begona thank you. She told you at the beginning of the interview that this is about the beauty that saves us, which is the phrase that inspires this section. Well, we leave saved in the soul, healed by the beauty that radiates your life, your story of overcoming, of reinvention, of generosity. The phrase of Teresa of Calcutta that you have chosen seems very accurate to me, because we really leave full of this love, of the little things, such as this little chat that we have had in the living room of your house, thank you very much.
B - Thank you very much.